NameAlice ???136,159,170
Death5 Jun 1696, Concord, Middlesex, Massachusetts159,171,164
Death MemoEdgar Hobart mistakenly has the year of death as 1697.
Birthabt 1622, Gloucester, Gloucestershire, England
Immigrationbef 1640, Scituate, Plymouth, Massachusetts Age: 18
Immi MemoWith his mother Joanna
Residence1643, Scituate, Plymouth, Massachusetts159 Age: 21
Residence1659, Concord, Middlesex, Massachusetts159 Age: 37
Death2 Apr 1704, Concord, Middlesex, Massachusetts159,175,164 Age: 82
OccupationFarmer, lawyer
FatherCharles Jr. Hoare (~1588-~1638)
MotherJoanna Hincksman (-1661)
Marriagebef 1650164
ChildrenJoanna (~1650-1691)
 Mary (<1650->1683)
 Daniel (1650->1718)
 Elizabeth (~1655-1687)
Notes for Alice ???
Alfred Wyman Hoar170 incorrectly states that she was the daughter of Lord John Lisle. Virkus repeats that she was daughter of Lord Lisle, but the timing is wrong.176 Elsie Thoreson177 also has her as Alice Lisle, repeating the mistake.,

She was living at the time of the death of Alice Lisle, widow of Lord John Lisle, but is not mentioned in any of the documents involved in the estate and the petitions to Parliment, unlike her sister-in-law Bridget Lisle Hoar. There is also no know visit of her husband John to England to encounter her. Her brother-in-law Leonard Hoar studied and preached in England which would explain his meeting his wife Bridget.

There is a widely cited reference to her which I have NOT been able to locate, though checking the specific publication mentioned and which is present at the LDS Family History Library.

Ira Hoar’s NSSAR application is missing a generation, but he states that this Alice was born in Gloucester.178
Notes for John (Spouse 1)
John was indentured to his father on 11 May 1632. He was named in his grandfather, Charles Hoare senior's will. He came to New England with his mother by 1640. He was living in Scituate in 1643 when he was among those able to bear arms. His brother Daniel appointed him, in 1650, as his attorney in New England, along with his nephew John Hull. He sold his lands in Scituate in 1659 and moved to Concord, as one of the "Cohasset Partners", where he lived for the rest of his life, except for a short interval when he returned to Braintree. His farm in Scituate was south o "Little" Musqhashcut Pond in the area now known as Shore Acres.

In 1668 John Hoare was charged before the county court of saying at the public house of Ensign William Bass "that the Blessing Master Bulkely pronounced in dismissing the publique Assembly in the Meeting-house was no better than vane babbling." He was convicted under the 1646 law of "the disparagement of the Lord's holy ordinance and makeing God's ways contemptible and ridiculous," and was fined 10 pounds.

He was twice called upon to answer in Court "for neglecting the public worship of God on the Lord's day."

He took charge of a community of 58 Christian Indians removed from Nashoba in November 1675 after they ran out of food and fuel. He gave them shelter in his house and offices and began building a workshop and palisade where they could work and shelter. Capt. Mosely broke into John Hoar's house on a Sunday and seized the Indians and their property. The indians were sent to Deer Island under a guard of 20 soldiers. The authorities were not happy with this but did not punish Capt. Mosely, or compensate John Hoar for his damages. Following the massacre at Lancaster on 10 February 1676 there were attempts to ransom the women and children taken there. The Nashoba Christian Indians and John Hoar were prevailed upon by Rev. Joseph Rowlandson to carry messages and negotiate for their release on April 3rd and 28th, 1676, and accomplished that mission.

"John Hoar of Braintree, planter," and his wife Alice sold land in Concord to Simon Linde and Thomas Brattle of Boston on 19 Nov. 1678. (Middlesex Deeds, East Cambridge, v. VI, p. 408)

He was back in Concord by 5 August 1680 when he exchanged land there with Edward Wright. John was described as "of Concord" then (Middlesex Deeds, v. VIII, p. 386).

" To the Hono'rd Generall Court Now Assembled
In Boston May 24th, 1682.
The Humble Petition of John Hoare -
Humbly Sheweth that whereas in the yeare 1665 yo'r Poor Petitioner was comitted to Prison forced to find suretyies for his good behavior and also fyned fivety pound for doing such things as I humbly conceived were but my duty and also prohibited from pleading any bodies cause but my owne; Now yo'r poor Petitioner hath a long time layne under the smart of these sufferings and hath often moved for a release but such hath bene the unhappyness of yo'r Poor Suppliant that he hath not yet obtained such a good day the want whereof hath bene greatly prejuditiall to my Brother Mr. Daniel Hoare his Estate and so my owne and also unto my name and famyly. The perticulars in my petition then exhibited to the Honor'd Generall Court wear such as my Brother Mr. Henery Flint of Brantrey & Mr. Edmond Browne of Sudbury did judge would not give any ofence. And in that hope I did present it.
I Humbly now present to this Hon'rd Court that in the time of the warr I tooke the charge of about sixty Indians belonging to Nashoby by the order of Majo'r Willerd, Majo'r Gookin, Mr. Elliot, and the select men of Concord. I built them a fort that cost mee of my own estate fourty pounds and went with my teame in Hazard of my life to save and bring home there Corne and also borrowed Rey and hors for them to plant and sow which I was forced to pay for myself. I also made several Journeys to Lancaster and to the Counsell and two Journies to the Indians to redeme Mrs. Rowlinson and Good wife Kettle with two horses and provisions and gave the sagamores considerably of my owne estate above whatever I received of the Countrey and by the favor of god obtained of them that they would fight noe more but in ther owne defence; Seth Perry also had several things of mee to give the Indians that hee might escape with his life.
My sonn Daniel Hoare also was Indicted for his life yet by divine providence was spared, yet was sentence to pay five pounds to the Indians and five pounds to the Countery tho' as I humbly Conceive he had not broken any Law.
My Humble Supplication on all accounts to this Hon'rd Court is that I might be sett att Liberty from my sentence and may enjoy the liberty of an English man, and alsto that the Cor't would pleas to remitt my son Daniel's sentence. And if they please to grant me some small parcel of Land to comfort my wife with respect unto all her suffereings by my disbursements fro the Countrey as above recited.
And yo'r Petitioner shall give thanks to the Lord and you
And shall ever Pray &c

He was released from his bonds and restraint from pleading in the courts. Furthermore, the magistrates recommended "that considering his publike service & Costs in securing the Nashoby Indians at his house in Concord by order of this Court's Committee for several months in time of said warr, and for his adventuring his life to goe up to the Indians in the time of the warr the successe whereof was the Redeeming of some Captives particulary Mrs. Rowlandson", some 200 acres of land would be granted his family. But the deputies in the General Court disagreed and answered:

" In ans'r to the Petition of John Hoare, and on further consideration thereof the Court judge meet for his service donne for the publick etc. to grant to the wife and children of the said John Hoare two hundred acres of land in any common lands from former grants, and not hindering a plantation."
(Mass. Records, v. V, p. 359)

Samuel Sewall noted in his diary for 8 Nov. 1690, "Jn'o Hoar comes into the Lobby and saies he comes from the Lord, by the Lord, to speak for the Lord: Complains that Sins as bad as Sodom's found here."

John did not leave a will and his probate shows that his son Daniel had been taking care of John and Alice since 1683. (Middlesex Probate, #11589).

See Nourse for extensive history notes. Further details are given in Hoare, D.W.. [This might be worth going into real detail and producing a volume.] Edward Hobart also has a number of details. Also see Elsie Thoreson, p. 5, 1992. A similar brief account of his life is summarized in Bouley.165

Note that Hyde has the wrong date for his death.136
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